Dogwoman,
Please do a little research first before you slam these athletes. This “Hot Climate/Cool Athletes” initiative is a collaboration between the Association for Climate Education (ACE) and Protect our Winters (POW). POW is an organization that emphasizes non-motorized backcountry travel such as snow-shoeing and splitboarding.

Second, it’s a little absurd of you to demand that these athletes possess scientific credentials to be reliable sources. It’s called using role models to convey a persuasive message. High school students would be bored to death by a panel of climate experts using scientific jargon. Because the athletes are much easier to relate to, students are much more likely to attend to and accept their message.

Dogwoman … go and see the presentation. Talk to the athletes and the kids. Being an arm chair Monday morning quarterback lacks creditability.

You might be interested in my laketahoenews.net challenge. I am encouraging all who comment here to help the Rotary Club on three different volunteer days. Instead of staying at home typing criticism we can be outdoors helping our community.

Are you in?

Is it legal to put nonsense in students heads and can anyone brainwash our children?? Should we not at least present both sides of this situation ??

There is scientific proof that the earth’s climate is changing. That is not ignorance or propaganda just pure fact. Our world is becoming increasingly polluted and to sit there and say it is natural and does not have an influence on our climate is a sign of true ignorance. It does not hurt anyone to be a little more environmentally aware. Be a part of the solution not the problem.

snoheather,

Of course the climate is changing, that is a foolish foolish point. The question is whether or not it is caused by mans activities. That issue there is no proof of, NONE.

There are theories and postulations true, There are also financially motivated consensus statement that have done great harm to the scientific research communities reputation. Gov funded research has downsides!

As for the world being more polluted – that too is true but here in the USA it is less polluted than when I was a kid. By Far. We use to pull used washing machines out of creek beds. Some cars would burn oil at quarts per tank of gas.

So you are wrong on that point too.

A person tieing the issue of the worlds timeframe to their insignificant time on earth is, as Limbough pointed out, the ultimate arrogance and a sign of ignorance and poor critical thinking skills.

PubWorks- Quoting Limbaugh shows your true ignorance. Nothing he says is based on any sort of facts, just pure raw emotion. There is nothing you will say to me that will change my opinion on the matter of the environment. Just like I can’t say anything that will change you’re opinion on this. Have fun sticking your head in the sand and I’ll keep doing what I can in regard to my overall effect on the environment.

Of course there is climate change we have more snow this winter than we did last winter now what does that prove ??

I’ll tell you what the kids should be learning, and from a business person, is how much the high cost of energy in the State of California effects the ability to compete in production and how that has helped destroy middle class jobs.

David- No one was doing any name calling. I was simply saying that it makes an argument hard to understand when you have to work through horrendous grammar. For example, your own use of a double negative actually ran contradictory to the point you were trying to make.

Also, you cannot use one winter to explain millions of years of climate data. In the same way that you should not use this winter to disprove global warming, I won’t use last fall’s record breaking heat as proof of global warming. One season of weather does not explain a climate as a whole.

I will attempt to determine when i run the snow blower in the morning if i am removing climate change snow or weather snow. And i was not aware that i was being graded on my writing skills.

Here is something for all of the skeptics out there.
Here is every argument from skeptics, refuted, with references, all in one page.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

I’ll just comment on this one real quick
“how would you possibly know what the ocean acid levels were over the past 4 billion years?”
Ice cores give us a record of several hundred thousand years. Before you say ‘well thats not billions’, consider that the time from the industrial revolution to now, is a fraction of the record of climate we have.

Also, in science, there is rarely ever black and white ‘proof’. Anyone with moderate knowledge of science, the scientific method, etc, should know that.

Funding for climate studies depends on dire predictions without it some people would have to get a real job

Golly, all this scientific mumbo-jumbo and back and forth nonsense (primarily from the robot) and all I was trying to do was point out the HYPOCRISY of extreme athletes (and also politicians like algore) who tell others to conserve while they fly around the globe every chance they get in jets, helicopters, etc, to go ski pristine mountains and ride in untouched deserts that most of us would never be able to approach. It’s about hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do.

David, Climate Change is a more accurate term.
And what have the scientists been shot down on?

Here is something to think about…
How many peer reviewed research papers challenge the science and the concept of anthropogenic climate change?

Zero.
Despite all of the scientists funded by the fossil fuel industry, they can’t get a single paper published. Because their science is rubbish.

Everyone should take a look at the link I posted.

Dogwoman if you don’t have any respect for science or scientists, and their work, you should keep that to yourself. Do they make you feel bad with all of their data and foreign lexicon.