A vision for South Shore’s future begins to unfold
By Kathryn Reed
STATELINE – Vision – that is what has been missing from the South Shore.
“If we are going to be a world-class outdoor destination, we need the commercial areas to complement the scenery,” Mike Bradford told Douglas County commissioners Thursday.
The county in its quest to bring economic vitality to the lake and valley created 12 project areas to focus on, with the casino corridor at Stateline being one of them. Bradford, who is part owner and runs Lakeside Inn and Casino, is the leader of that project.
As he brought others into the scoping process it became evident work needed to start at the state line and spread from there – which meant going into South Lake Tahoe.
While in the past the line separating California and Nevada has been a point of demarcation for those in charge, tourists never saw a line – except for where it was legal to gamble.
Ironically, it’s gaming that has erased the line for local officials and what is bringing them to the same table. Indian casinos in California have put the kibosh on gaming being king of the South Shore. While people move to Lake Tahoe for the outdoors and tourists have been drawn to the area for the same reason, it took the casino industry to be in decline for a decade for those who control the marketing dollars to realize a new business model is needed.
Lake Tahoe News first reported in July that the South Shore Vision Plan was in the works. Aspects of it were outlined for Douglas County commissioners at their Oct. 20 meeting in Stateline. A formal presentation will be made to that board when it has a joint meeting with the South Lake Tahoe City Council on Nov. 4 at noon at Edgewood Tahoe. It is a public meeting.
What the commissioners agreed to Thursday was to put up $10,000 of the $35,000 needed to fund the economic analysis of the plan. Lake Tahoe Visitors Authority and South Lake Tahoe are each being asked to put up $10,000, while the South Tahoe Alliance of Resorts is giving $5,000. The latter paid the $50,000 to Design Workshop to create the plan.
Dealing with TRPA
“We are giving the reigns to the governments to move forward and get it into the (TRPA) Regional Plan,” Bradford said.
One issue to overcome in order to get this plan on the ground is to allow the five counties and one city in the Lake Tahoe Basin to have greater control of their destiny instead of being told what to do by the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency.
Harmon Zuckerman, who until last month when his contract was not renewed was spearheading the much overdue Regional Plan update, supported a more liberal approach to planning than had occurred in the past. Sources have told Lake Tahoe News that Arlo Stockham is pulling back on transect planning that integrates mixed uses. However, TRPA says just the opposite is true. In fact, the plan is to give greater authority to local jurisdictions.
With the TRPA being Big Brother in the basin, for the last 40 years local jurisdictions have been under the bi-state regulatory agency’s thumb. While local politicians have not orchestrated an Occupy Lake Tahoe movement, they are talking and do want more control of what happens in their borders.
When the TRPA Governing Board meets Oct. 26 at 9:30am in Kings Beach it will hear a presentation from staff about the approach.
In some ways, South Lake Tahoe may have the most power because its boundaries are entirely within the basin. This compares to the five counties whose seat of governance is outside the basin.
“This plan should serve as a foundation, a catalyst for what can and should happen for the South Shore and Douglas County,” Douglas County Manager Steve Mokrohisky told Lake Tahoe News before the meeting. “I think everyone recognizes the current model does not allow for pedestrian friendly development, access to the lake, and has challenges regarding the environment.”
The plan
Richard Shaw with the Aspen office of Design Workshop will be at the November meeting to go over the 32-page South Shore Vision Plan. (He was not available to comment for this story.) The plan will be available to the public at that time.
What is presented in the document is not completely new. The loop road directing traffic off Highway 50 and around the casinos is still the major focal point. Overall, the plan goes from Ski Run Boulevard to Kahle Drive.
“The cost of Loop Road is something in the $70 million range. That is a tough nut to crack,” Mokrohisky said.
Both state transportation departments are likely to be asked to fund the bulk of the work, with the possibility of tapping into the federal jobs bill if that were to pass.
Mokrohisky said the county is talking to NDOT and that it will be up to city officials to get Caltrans on board.
While the plan put forth by Design Workshop is just that – a plan – it is something the government bodies on the South Shore need to vote on to proceed with. That could happen at the joint November meeting in two weeks.
The plan calls for a minimum sidewalk zone of 20-feet from Park Avenue to the Horizon. The speed limit would be 25mph, with multiple crossings for pedestrians.
The idea is it would make the state line area a more walkable, downtown destination, with the bulk of the traffic diverted behind the casinos.
While this idea has literally been talked about for decades, the powers that be believe now is the time to carry the idea forward.
“The principal focus at this point is from Stateline to the end of Loop Road. If we can get that fixed, the rest will be easy,” Tony O’Rourke, South Lake Tahoe city manager, told Lake Tahoe News.
He is one of the nearly 50 people who has been involved in the process to work with Design Workshop to build the vision.
“This is a bold, progressive plan. I like the whole thing,” O’Rourke said. “Clearly it’s an attempt to redefine that corridor. It’s dated and old and won’t meet the needs of destination guests.”
Part of the vision put forth by the Design Workshop says, “Retail activities will frame places for pedestrians; the centers of activity will be engaging places, providing for event programming and strong design appeal; the streets will be developed with outside dining, landscaped edges and ‘complete street design character’; local community orientation and service can be incorporated creating a rich mix of retail opportunities.”
Giving the casinos a makeover is proposed – especially at the ground level to have them be something other than spacious, vacant gaming venues.
Access to the lake has long been talked about. This, too, is a bit of an irony considering all the marketing-tourism gurus say people come to Lake Tahoe for the lake. One would think if this were the main reason, people wouldn’t be having such a hard time finding it if that were their goal.
Now the gurus say no one can find the lake and it needs to be more of a focal point.
“We need to deliver the lake to residents and visitors,” Mokrohisky said. “I have known people who came to Lake Tahoe and they are here several days before they see the lake or get access or know how to get there. This plan lays out the fundamental principals of what we need to do to provide access.”
The plan says, “A new public recreation beach will expand to the north side of Stateline Ave. to fulfill needed water based recreation. Scenic views will result form the recreational acquisitions.”
Maybe someone should ask the visitors and locals why they are here. Maybe it’s the mountains and not the lake.
What’s next?
After the elected officials on the South Shore review the plan in two weeks they will be tasked with deciding how to go forward. Douglas County without even seeing the full presentation is on board to study if the plan is economically feasible. Presuming that study is funded and comes to fruition (LTVA will oversee the bid process), and then environmental analyses will be conducted.
Bradford said the economic component would likely look at what happens if nothing were done, and then forecast for five, 10 and 20 years out.
Everyone agrees public buy-in is crucial. Also agreed to is to make any plan a reality it will take public-private partnerships.
Jobs and tax revenue – those will be the economic indictors that will push the plan forward.
If the numbers work, then the environmental concerns will be looked at. Lake clarity, total maximum daily loads, coverage, height issues, transportation, density – all of that would be addressed. That is why if TRPA doesn’t get its Regional Plan done by the latest deadline of December 2012 (originally it was due in 2007), nothing will happen.
The other buy-in needed is from private property owners who have not been at the table but whose property the planners have other ideas for.
The right players, the right time – the stars being aligned – that is what makes this vision different, according to officials.
“The vision plan creates a path we can head down together,” Mokrohisky.
People can debate ’til they’re blue in the face whether there are leaders visionary enough to pull this off, whether TRPA and others will become an insurmountable hindrance, whether the money will appear to make it happen, and most cynically, about how it’s all been tried before and can’t succeed.
What really matters is the end goal: that once you create an aesthetically unique and pleasing, well connected walkable “village” that highlights and enhances enjoyment of the outstanding beauty of the area, providing easy to find and use connectivity to the main attractions and lake and mountain recreational endeavors, people will remember the place as somewhere they want to return to over and over.
Couple that with the right small supporting local businesses and healthy dining experiences that can grow around this, a mix of luxury and more affordable lodging, and employees who really want to help the visitors thoroughly enjoy their stay, and you have a base from which to build and improve not only this target area but the rest of the town as well.
Go for it.
You might want to check out the work of Walter Hood to see what can be done with walkable public spaces and plazas as well – he’s become a go to guy for this sort of thing in the Bay Area.
I am excited and happy that people are once again working on this plan. I think a plan that the community would appreciate is to show us what it would look like after 1 year start, 5 years and 10 years since i’m sure it all can’t be right away.
Thank you Mike and the groups that funded the plan.
Looks Good! Anything looks better then what it looks like now.
I wonder if Tony O’Rourke should have been updating the public at every council meeting on these discussions. I wonder if he has been giving updates to the city council behind closed doors or via memorandum. I wonder why they have not shared any of this with us. He does work for us, shouldn’t we know? Especially if it will require $10k of our $$. Seems to me that something this big should be out in the open and put forth by the city manager or the city council rather than through the LTN website’s publisher.
All that being said, I’m glad someone is looking at a more economically viable future.
I am puzzled by responses I get from seemingly responsible government employees about passive solar concepts regarding deicing. Since we live in a frozen alpine environment, where are the guidelines to build transportation routes/pathways using the free solar energy to help keep our routes as slip free as possible within reason? This type of concept in theory reduces air pollution, ect……. too….
Not Born on the Bayou
Sounds like you have a vision…you’re articulate, visionary and seem to have some answers to the issues at hand. You should be part of the process.
Go for it!!
Having quoted before P.P.P., the old classic A.T.& T. management axiom – Planning Precedes Performance – South Tahoe seems to be enshrined in a time-warp.
What is reported so far is yet another “plan”, but this time simply rehashes what has already been discussed before – the Loop Road, centralized focus on the Stateline area for benefit of the now-twice-removed ‘ownership’ (investment banks instead of ‘namesakes’), with no way to implement any of it.
We’ve heard it all before and where are we ? Still needing to do it…
As to “finding the Lake”, this plan and those like it have never gone beyond the ‘cachet’ and image of Tahoe in their marketing, due to the ‘company town’ aspects of the gaming and/or entertainment influence (except now, absent the entertainment), so there is a dire need for an overall marketing campaign (not just ‘promotions’) to remind the masses why they wanted (and need) to come to Tahoe in the first place. . .
It needs to lean to the “experiential” side. . .
It is well-known at this time in our culture that ‘supply’ is not the issue; it is now shifted to the ‘demand’ side – the perfect segue for a true marketing campaign. . . not just “wish lists”.
In any event, look forward to seeing a full presentation – and November 4th is not too long to wait. . .
Douglas County sees the need to “extend” across the state line (?) … 40 years ago, Bill Harrah was wise enough (since lost on subsequent ownership) to maintain loyalty to the South Shore lodging community, as those visitors were needed to augment the huge ‘sales floor’ needs, but new ownership thought they could poach them into their own hotels (vs. motels). . .
That, along with the “cost savings” associated with no longer booking big name entertainers, began the decline we see now. . . “exporting” gaming also exported the need for local help, which compounded the other two above.
Simply rebuilding the “infrastructure” will do no good, absent creating more demand for any facility improvements.
We have a steeper incline now to overcome than before, whatever the plan.
$ 100,000 (?) – as there are only a couple of obvious key issues yet to determine, I’d have done it for 25,000.
Well, it’s pretty but not practical. A little to much traffic down there for that desgin
Do planners really believe that state transportation departments are going to pay for this? In terms of vehicle traffic flow, the present configuration and placement of Highway 50 appears adequate and efficient.
Lol.Write a check Mike…Raise the drink prices at your hole in the ground.
IN THE MEAN TIME, DO SOMETHING TO COVER UP THE ONE THAT COLLECTING TRASH,RUST.$
They will have a Resort on the Moon before this gets built!
Free Market Capitalism built this country and excessive government w/ over payed and pensioned people are destroying it.
This all sounds good but it will fail just like everything else this group of cronies tries to do.
Same ol Same ol will get you the same ol…
Get it?
Vail and other businesses in the area are well advised to get outside the “cronyville players” and bring in new vision.
If you keep looking to government types to fix your mess it will just get worse.
Free enterprise = People prosper
Government Leads = what you got.
It looks to me like a big frenzy of planners doing what planners do best… planning. I noticed an extreme contrast between the architechtural design sketches contained within this article and the photo of Stateline traffic contained in Kai’s July article on the same subject (and linked from this page). Assuming CalTrans, NDOT, Lahontan Water Control Board and Nevada Enviromenal Protection are all on-board with this plan (with TRPA’s full support), it would seem the only hurdle left would be finding funding from business partnerships and tax or redevelopment zone revenue. That should be a piece of thriple-layer cake in the current economy. What could go wrong?
Oh yeah, there is that pesky issue of what to do with the Tahole, formerly called the “convention center site,” as Lake Tahoe Development Co. and Randy Lane ro shambo to place blame while the City of SLT either searches for future investors or pretends the Tahole doesn’t exist rather than looking into a viable alternative site development plan to remedy the current visual blight the unfinished project has created. Who else would like to see a Stateline Skate Park? Community open space with environmental education signs and kiosks? C’mon SLT City Council, do the right thing… for everyone in the community, not just those with supposed deep pockets and a slick marketing presentation.