I can understand the Keys doing so…that beach has been getting trashed for years. It amazes me the mess people will leave behind for others to clean up.

@AROD,

Was it a mistake to approve the Keys in the 1960’s? Probably. But it’s there now and its not going away anytime soon.

If we don’t get some snow soon, we’ve got more to worry about than wetlands. Their boat docks are going to be pretty useless. Which means the vacationers won’t be coming in the summer and bringing their money with them, which means more hurt for Tahoe locals — as if the last few ski seasons weren’t bad enough. Whatever you think of the Keys from an environmental standpoint, it’s no small driver of the local economy.

And if you take a step back, the Washoe could say the same thing about bulldozing whatever and wherever you live.

As the article says, perfectly legal to block shoreline access across Keys private property, but it’s also perfectly legal for people to walk from Pope Beach to the Keys beach, as long as they stay below the high-water line, which given the lake level is a lot of beach. On the other hand, Pope is a nice beach, so not sure why anyone would want to walk all the way over to the Keys.

Duende

AROD great idea, Please buy all of those properties for us and bulldoze them, I am pretty sure you have the money to do this as no one else does including any government entity.

Duende, You are correct in your assessment of the keys. When all that waterfront access to the lake dries up the value of those homes with a dock in their backyard will plummet.
NO SNOW, NO DOUGH!
I would like to see it returned back to The Truckee Marsh but that probably will never happen. An earthquake and tsunami would be a start to bringing it back to its natural state. Hold on Keys folks, there are some good sized fault lines at the bottom of the lake and you’re living on landfill. OLS

Isn’t this just great. Block off the beach so locals can not access it, but allow all the tourist bastards who rent in the keys access to the beach. I bet the amount of trash stays the same. These tourists think when they come here and rent a place to stay they can do whatever they please, and that includes throwing their trash everywhere but in a trash can. Tom Davis better loosen up his trash pickin’ up arm and get a big barrel. And he better not con the city into cleaning up that beach !

I was under the impression that 20 feet above the High Water line was still public land? Someone should look that up, it used to be the LAW.

The beach access law in Hawaii should be applicable to all ocean & lake front areas. In Hawaii there are marked public access paths to beaches everywhere. Private properties have setbacks & I never heard of any high-water mark rule.

Maybe congress should be approached about public access to Lake Tahoe. I don’t like the Key’s exclusive right to use my lake access & my sand.

For the portion of Lake Tahoe in Ca. the high water mark has been determined by court cases to be 6228.88 ft. above sea level. The public has a right to that land if they can access it
, period. In Nevada its the low water mark, 6223 ft. above sea level, the natural rim of the lake.

The shore is so wide right now you could walk around the entire lake on it. Can NV property owners prevent someone from doing that? Sounds like a great opportunity to see the view from places we can’t access normally. TKPOA actions are just the beginning of what’s coming with the low lake level.

There’s a helluva lot more private shoreline property around the lake than the little bit at Tahoe Keys, and I’m not hearing complaints about inability to access the lake across other private property. If you were fortunate enough to have a lakefront house, you probably wouldn’t want someone traipsing across your yard either.

When Lake Tahoe was taken from the Washoe over 150 years ago, should the politicians have established a no-build zone around the lake? Should it have been turned into another Yosemite? Maybe, but it didn’t happen.

Again, there are many better beaches with public access on the lake, and if you really have your heart set on hanging out with Keys residents/vacationers on their beach, you can access it from Pope.

Best for you to accept the fact that history is in the past, the law is what it is and is not going to change with respect to private property (nor should you want it to), and the Keys vacationers bring a “boatload” of money with them to the area, generating a lot of jobs for contractors, cleaners, restaurants, shops, and on and on.

IMHO, lots better causes to put effort into than complaining about the Keys (like what to do about the area surrounding the Y).

littleone, Years ago I paddled my canoe around the lake twice in two years. That’s a lot of paddle’n, Madelyn!
I did that two years in a row in the mid 70’s, and we camped along the shoreline where we could. Some of the lakefront property owners told us to move on even though we were out in the lake and not that close to the shoreline. I guess they felt they owned part of the lake as well…
Not much can be done about it now as I’m afraid, no one stops this illegal land grab and threatening shouts from people on the shore of a bi-state lake that they don’t own personally and that they can scare you off.
So public land stolen is no longer a big deal. Just grab some public land while the gettin’s good!
I’m the new land speculator! Free lakefront property!
Well, that is until you have to pay me for the public land I’ll be putting up for sale. OLS

the keys beach is pathetic. Most keys homeowners go elsewhere in the first place. you have to pay to access pope and other beaches in the summer unless you walk in and that’s public land, so fencing off private property for which the homeowners pay fees is not out of line

Pay for everything! WE pay for public roads despite their condition, potholes, cracks, failing bridges, the whole shabang. WE pay for our public schools thru taxes even if you have no children. WE pay for public parks, beaches and wilderness areas even if they’re inaccsessable to you, blocked by fences and closures. WE pay for politicians salaries who only pass measures that are being paid for by the highest bidder in the form of “donations”. WE pay for food and pharmacuticals that have only barely been inspected and then deemed safe for human consumption. The list goes on forever.
So if the TKPOA wants to block public accses because they don’t want the general public using a pathway to get to the public, shoreline of Tahoe, well I guess we’re stuck with that as that decision was made by “SOUTH LAKE TAHOE officials.
Good luck walking along the shoreline this summer because if there is a homeowner nearby you’ll probably be harrased no matter how far you are away from that lakefront homeowners LEGAL property lines.
Happy beach walking, OLS

‘How dare The Keys demand and enforce their rights to their private property.’
We are all paying to ameliorate some of the destruction that development caused. If you want them to have absolute property rights let’s send them a bill.

Your political group does not have a monopoly on reasonable thought. For that matter, whatever group that is, doesn’t seem to have any barrier to entry.