Bear League accused of cyber-stalking
By Jeff DeLong, Reno Gazette-Journal
A legal battle between bear advocates and a Lake Tahoe couple who says they were threatened and intimidated after reporting a problem bear to authorities will continue after a judge said evidence suggests “cyber-stalking” occurred.
Richard and Adrienne Evans failed to prove the Bear League intentionally interfered with the relationship between Adrienne and her professional mountain bike racing sponsors and that claim in the couple’s lawsuit is dismissed, Washoe District Judge Lidia Stiglich ruled May 27.
But the judge declined to dismiss two other claims in the Evans’ complaint as requested by the Bear League, including that the nonprofit organization engaged in civil conspiracy and attempted to defame the couple in an impassioned dispute over Nevada’s bear management practices.
Katherine Parks, attorney for the Bear League and its founder and executive director Ann Bryant, declined to comment Tuesday.
Bear League = liberal nut cases. There’s been too many of these cases altogether. Just because someone has a problem bear, doesn’t mean the problem is automatically their fault, and they’re to be stalked for it. Even if the problem was the person’s fault, that still does not give the Bear League the right to stalk them. Disgusting.
The Bear League only tries to save the Bears ,Give them credit for what they do,Without them many bears would be killed, Some one has to do the work, Give credit when credit is do,Read about what they do,and maybe just maybe you can be thankful.
Linda,
Anti abortion advocates claim they’re trying to save the lives of babies. Should we condone all their actions?
The ends do not justify the means It never has. Hopefully this lawsuit will prevail and the Bear League will have to change its tactics. Perhaps the director should resign now.
Linda maybe learn the facts. The bear league has a long track record of nasty behavior towards people protecting their property. Saving the bears is one thing being nasty to people to accomplish that goal is the unfortunate way they do things.
‘Stiglich agreed in part, saying “the Bear League itself did not post any of the most concerning threats and other vitriol directed at Ms. Evans.”’
Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. The Bear League does an excellent job at community outreach educating basin residents and visitors on how to deal with the wildlife that share our home area. The Bear League is also very adept at helping homeowners deal with human/bear interactions in the urban/forest interface using the very same training and protocol that bear management folks that belong to multiple agencies across the country and Canada use. Ann Bryant and those members of the Bear League such as myself do not advocate any harassment or threats leveled at anyone for any reason. We also cannot control the actions of non members who take a very emotional/overzealous approach to this issue. I feel very strongly that The Bear League provides a much needed and invaluable service to our community AND our bears.
“Our Bears”
What a crock! You act like they are just fuzzy little pets. Bears are top of the food chain WILD ANIMALS! They will kill you and eat you if they have the need. It has always puzzled me as to why people will spend so much time and resources on “helpless” wildlife while there are human children who have a much greater need. Prioritize people.
The Bear League has insufficiently separated itself from the crazies who feel empowered by their message to replace conversation with radical, and even psychotic, speech, ideas, plans and often action.
The same might sometimes be said about the Lake Tahoe News comments page and the Republican Party.
Boy is Kae gonna hate that bit of juxtapositioning. Don’t worry, kid, I’m still subscribing.
I would strike the word liberal and just say nutcases in reference to the Bear League and their groupies or hangers-on. I think it very odd that the Bear League leader herself kept a wild animal (a porcupine) as a “pet” for many years.
I acknowledge that the Bear League does a good job of providing education and information regarding how to minimize or avoid Bear-human conflicts. They should limit their activity to this, and not spoil a good idea with personal grievances and illegal acts.
The Bear League nor anyone else has the right or a call to harass a citizen who is using the laws and rules of the land to resolve a potentially dangerous wildlife issue.
Clearly the Evans used appropriate procedures via appropriate government agencies to handle their Bear problem.
It is worth noting that no harassment was directed at those agencies charged with the ultimate solution.
Bears are no different than people. There are always a few members in any population, human or animal that are willing to injure or kill to get what they want when they want it. We imprison and yes, unfortunately even kill people for the same offenses.
Finally, we should acknowledge that there is a growing list of unprovoked attacks by the vaunted “peaceful Black Bears” that we are trying to co-exist with. Many of these attacks are not connected with the victims being guilty of garbage mishandling but simply being in the wrong place at a time when a rogue Bear decided to take them on.
I hope the courts make an evidence based decision and set a clear example for anyone else who might consider new coercive acts to force others to follow their twisted logic in the future.
Cranky Gerald, please provide us with the info about the “growing list of unprovoked attacks” that you are aware of. As far as I know in the last ten years there have been two “attacks” in the basin. One was at the Station House Inn on Park Ave when a bear early one morning sauntered into a narrow maids closet left open and then the bear brushed by the maid who was unaware of his presence and was blocking his exit, with minimal injury. And the other was last summer in the Kings Beach area after a bear got frisky with a woman who had been feeding it for years. And for the record in both California and Nevada history no one has been killed by a wild black bear!
The facts are written in the Bear League,Read it again,Be Bear Aware,Thank you They have done a great Job,and will continue to do so,
True:
Bears are large, unpredictable, wild animals, at the top of the food chain.
They are far stronger than people.
We should avoid them if possible.
False:
Bears are nice and cute.
Bears are vegetarians.
We should compromise public safety for bears.
Bears are not dangerous.
The ends justify the means.
To all of you saying bear attacks don’t happen, let me know if you have a weak stomach, and if not, I’ll link some videos of people being torn apart by black bears.
KAY TAKE NOTE, please do not use RGJ as a source for your paper. We must be able to read the full article that you are referring to without jumping through the same hoops that the Tahoe Tribune wants you to do to read their articles. You must answer a “survey question” which is invasive marketing. (Not to mention ultimately an invasion of my privacy) As apparent from all these responses, you get the same toxic personalities expounding their same predictable closed narrow minded uninformed viewpoints. This wastes my time, bandwith and basically closes the door to any relevant intelligible conversations regarding the topic. Or at the very least, provide us a link that allows us to read the article without invading our privacy.
GreenGrass ,show me a clipping about a bear in Lake Tahoe that hurt someone Please,Prove it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America
http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2014/08/24/tahoe-woman-attacked-bear-may-face-feeding-charges/14531237/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PWHNIbS8cE
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227517/Alex-Machado-Hunter-describes-terrifying-moment-400lb-black-bear-lunged-shot-dead.html
Your idea that bears are peaceful timid vegetarians goes against reality. Bears are not your pets. I’m guessing you probably feed them or something. There are numerous stories of bears preying on people for food.
Oh well, when you get mauled by a bear, maybe you’ll see my point.
BEARS ARE UNPREDICTABLE DANGEROUS WILD ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!
Once again: I have bear league traps set. Ann Whacko will be relocated to Northern Alaska. Get a clue you fool. The bears are not your PETS!! Start by not naming them. YOU are only a self proclaimed expert……nothing more, and a nuisance to all.
Wrong ,Kitscarson ,Show me prove that Ann made a pet out of a Bear You fool.Prove once again .Back it up or shut up.
I’m guessing she knows WAY more about bears than you, Kits, and probably more than me.
Linda is hysterical. Don’t bother replying.
Before we had a bear league and bear resistant enclosures we didn’t have a bear problem here (at least it was a small fraction of what we have now).
By interfering with historical abatement practices we now need to put down numerous bears instead of one.
They have mutated the species that now have numerous cubs instead of one and don’t hibernate.
The best of intentions sometimes go wrong. I once thought this about the league. Unfortunately their lack of support for Karl Lacky when he is attacked by the nut jobs makes me believe they’re behind most if not all of the problems.
Greenass ,what is it with you? You cant back up what you say, I know what it is ,You want attention lol You know nothing about the Bears I work for them,and if you see a Bear Please do me a favor,stand back they might just kill you ,be careful now, You know so much about Bears ,but they know so much about you .Be careful dont want them eating you ,your to funny and stupid .
I was looking for a little guy digging a hole but ltn doesnt allow animations…bummer…go linda go!
Bigger picture-
It is dumb to only look at Tahoe for Black bear attacks. I said a growing list, but I did not limit it to Tahoe for obvious reasons.
Reported in national news in the last year or so:
A young man was killed by a Black Bear in NEW Jersey…not a garbage related incident, just an attack on a hiker.
Another man in Washington State was attacked and seriously injured on his property by a Black Bear.
Just use google and you will see a trend.
Linda: Now I get it. You’re part of the Bear League.
I already backed up what I said, but you probably didn’t have the attention span to look at any of my links. I can go better places than LTN for attention.
“You know nothing about the bears” I know enough to realize that 400lb animals with 2 inch claws acting in a threatening manner are no trifling matter.
I think it’s funny that I say bears are dangerous, and everyone attacks me for hating bears.
Like I said, when you’re being killed by a bear for your folly, maybe you’ll understand what I’m talking about. Good riddance, I say.
Let me ask you a Question How many Bear league People work for Bear League ? Let me answer that for you ,Over 1000,people in the Basin,Now GREEN ASS how man bears have attacked people in the Basin? How many have you seen ? No you did not back it up ,You stated Black Bears attack,Yes they do ,But you also stated in the Basin,read back to your statement , You said you would put a link on ,Prove it Again I ask for this ,Come on now Prove how many have attacked people in the Basin,? Thats all I ask ,Prove it and name where at the Basin, so hard to get a answer from you ,Why is that ?
“I already backed up what I said, but you probably didn’t have the attention span to look at any of my links.”
No Greengrass, you didn’t post any links that I can see.
You stated Washington,and New Jersey , I asked about Lake Tahoe, can you answer that please? Again how many have been attacked here in the Basin? I can tell you ,NONE. Have a good night To Mr Greenass .
None ,notta, not one person in the Basin has been killed ,If anyone can prove it ,Please do, Oh by the way I had a bear out my door ,when I opened it ,we did the bump together , he went strolling away ,We at the Bear league only try to get the bears back in the forest ,Please be Bear Aware,If any one is scared ,do not forget to just shout out loud and show them who is the boss,Bear wise we call it.They go there merry way.We are gentle with the bears ,We do not kill the bears.
Linda: Black bears have attacked many and killed some. To say that bears here are any different form other bears is absurd.
You are obviously lying because a woman was attacked in the basin just last year.
Your hysteria does nothing but hurt bears and humans. If you want to put your life and the lives of others on the line because of your delusions, fine, but I’m going to continue treating bears as unpredictable animals that should be handled with caution.
Name calling won’t do you any good, and based on your comments here, I wouldn’t be surprised if you were one of the cyber stalkers in this article.
You’re only proving the accusations some here are bringing against the bear league.
Anyway, I don’t have any more brain cells to waste on your idiocy and hysteria, so good night.
greengrass
Where are the links green?
Nice job with the baseless accusation too.
People don’t take you seriously because you say things like:
“Name calling won’t do you any good”
Followed by:
“I don’t have any more brain cells to waste on your idiocy”
The b bear league should put its efforts into awareness and education and not into intimidation. Very bush league.
DOP: Several people have complained about missing links, and the comment still says “Your comment is awaiting moderation,” so I’m reposting the whole comment here:
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America
http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2014/08/24/tahoe-woman-attacked-bear-may-face-feeding-charges/14531237/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PWHNIbS8cE
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227517/Alex-Machado-Hunter-describes-terrifying-moment-400lb-black-bear-lunged-shot-dead.html
Your idea that bears are peaceful timid vegetarians goes against reality. Bears are not your pets. I’m guessing you probably feed them or something. There are numerous stories of bears preying on people for food.
Oh well, when you get mauled by a bear, maybe you’ll see my point.
BEARS ARE UNPREDICTABLE DANGEROUS WILD ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!”
“I don’t have any more brain cells to waste on your idiocy” First of all, that is not name calling, and second, it’s a true statement.
I have posted the links twice now, but something is wrong with LTN. It won’t let me post them. What’s going on?
Greengrass, let me repeat: In California history no one has been killed by a wild black bear.
And like I said before as well, that woman on the north Shore was regularly feeding that bear that bit her, but didn’t maul her.
Linda: She names them and kept a porcupine.
Linda: You obviously need to check into Barton. I think they have a pill for your hostile attitude. And BTW you bear league clowns have no clue of how much the rest of us know about bears. I awoke to one in my house blocking my only escape….but it lived. Just one example.
Go commiserate with your whacko leader and get a life…..but Barton first.
Linda,
I am not concerned whether a bear has killed anyone in the Tahoe Basin or not. I am not concerned that Bears do attack on occasion, whether provoked by humans or not.
I am concerned with the Bear League’s tactics.
The issue here is whether The Bear League tactics of inciting violence through their Facebook page is acceptable behavior. There is no reason for Bear League to post a person’s name address, phone number or place of employment on the FB page when that person exercises their legal right to call for a trap. What is the purpose of doing that? The purpose is one. It incites people to call the homeowner and intimidate & harass. Bear League knows that and it would be foolish of them to claim ignorance.
Your group should rethink your advocacy strategy. You are hurting your cause. Most people I know and speak with do their part to not attract bears to their homes & restaurants & think you guys are nutjobs for spewing vitriol and villifying people online for bear traps/incidents.
That is how the Bear League is now perceived by many people here in Tahoe. Very unfortunate for the bears and for your organization. How do you plan to change that perception?
What is your opinion on the above ruling?
Good luck & be kind to people. Villifying your neighbors works against the cause.
WOW!!! LLinda 1000 people work for the bear league? I’m impressed. That must be quite a weekly payrol, hundreds of thousands I would think? What do these 1000 workers do everyday?
Linda claims over a thousand Bear League members in the basin yet she is the only one on this blog. Has the attorney for the league told them to back off??
Maybe the rest of them have a brain.
Sunriser2, including myself I count three Bear League members who have commented on this forum.
Togee, You left out one of the most important findings in the judge’s ruling regarding the Bear League’s role in this cyber-bullying case, hence the suit was not dismissed.
Let’s all read it out loud together. Ready. Set. Read:
“…The court finds that clear and convincing evidence exists to support the Evans’ claims that the Bear League conspired with its followers to accomplish the unlawful objective of cyber-stalking/cyber harassment, causing harm to the (Evanses),” Stiglich wrote.
Why would you cite your above quote without citing this key quote which keeps the case against the Bear League alive?
You also state above, “Ann Bryant and those members of the Bear League such as myself do not advocate any harassment or threats leveled at anyone for any reason. We also cannot control the actions of non members who take a very emotional/overzealous approach to this issue” If you believe that to be true then why doe Bear League post the name, address and employment info of the homeowner for all of your “emotional & overzealous” nonmembers to see? Clearly you know they will harass since you know them to be overzealous and emotional. Bear League FB posts incite people to act and The Bear League knows that.
Any response from Linda, Togee or Biggerpicture to my previously posed question?
What do you call a large white bear that goes both ways?
Bi-Polar!
Tahoe Real:
You got it right. The problem is the tactics used. The league should be concentrating their efforts on keeping the bears out of populated areas NOT harassing or causing the harassing of folks who are rightfully afraid for their own safety.
Yes ,We have over 1000, people in the League,Yes we work all over the Basin, No, we do not get paid for it, Yes we travel in cars around the neighbor hoods and watch for bears when we get calls stating there is a bear in the neighbor hood ,we response to that neighbor hood, we travel 2 together ,so when there is a bear we just get out of the car and chase the bear away back into the meadow ,or the forest, We have loud horns and other things to chase the bears out , No we do not harm the bears,Yes we do this 24 hrs a day, We are a group of people that work together around the lake to keep them away from you and to keep you safe , Yes we look for garbage bins and to see if they are secure, If not yes we report it to the wild life and others , If you think about it The league is a program to keep it safe for you ,The bear league is and always will have negatives from people ,always wanting to sue or take us to court,But we win at all cost to keep you safe, You need to get into the Bear league and read all about it,and maybe you will understand it more in what we try to do to keep you and your property safe, and maybe you will understand it more,We all love our jobs ,because we care for you, and for the bears.nothing more to be said about what we do ,You need to read it ,It is called the Bear League.You can also join if you want . If it was not for Ann there would be more bears killed more then you can count , There our over 400 bears in the basin and still counting.
TahoeReal, I just looked at all the Bear League postings to Facebook for over the last year and I didn’t find ONE instance of a name, address, and phone number posted. Are you sure you’re not confusing the Bear League page with the Lake Tahoe Wall of Shame page which has no affiliation with the Bear League?
Biggerpicture, you don’t see them because the Bear League deleted the posts. They deleted many posts but people capture the screen shots before the deletion and that is what the court has.
I recall the Bear League posted a very libelous & false psychiatric profiling of Carl Lackey. BL posted it as it were a real psych eval. They later deleted it. They also deleted all the posts regarding the Morrissons’ tripping the bear trap and all the congratulations that followed.
No, not confusing w/ LTWoS. Surprised he wasn’t named in the suit…or was he?
He is the one that falsely claimed a trap was illegally set on the Bear League page and set that debacle in motion….and the Bear League ran with it form there. What a mess.
green: The rgj story is about the lady who was intentionally feeding bears, right?
hahahaha
Biggerpicture, did you also notice that the Bear League deleted the very recent posts regarding the bear trap at the Senator’ house in Incline? He was named and cross streets & photo were posted. Now deleted. The only posts now relating to him are articles why the judge denied the restraining order against the Bear League…he denied it only because the trap was since removed and the people watching vigil left. Current posting by BL claims belief that he will intentionally lure the Bear to his home. How does she know what he will or not do? Why speculate? A rally cry to the emotional and overzealous perhaps?
Linda? No comment on the judge’s ruling re Bear League cyber bullying behavior? Why not?
Do you believe the suit has no merit and the judge is wrong? Do you believe the Bear League does not harass people?
You are avoiding the issue of this Lake Tahoe News post entirely. Do you think this BL behavior sets a good example for the youth that Bear League attempts to educate here in Tahoe? They see the online harassment, right?
Does the harassment not exist in your eyes? It’s all made up by the plaintiffs and the Senator because they have nothing better to do with their time?
You must be new to the Tahoe Region, Linda:
https://www.laketahoenews.net/2011/06/bear-claws-tent-at-camp-rich-leaves-camper-with-scratches/
The Bear League should stick to the role of educating the public about prevention of making these wonderful animals dependent on humans for food. That is an honorable goal. I would also appreciate it greatly, as I enjoy eating bears, and I hate it when they taste like trash.
Bears don’t need protection: their numbers have never been greater-
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/bear/population.html
Bears need salt, pepper, and a little bit of garlic; also, make sure they are cooked to at least 145 to avoid trichinosis.
Yum!
Linda: What/Who gives YOU people the right to respond to bear issues. You are nothing more than voluntary self proclaimed experts on the bruins….and your little scanners to listen for a bear call. Get a life!
You would do better for us all if you simply gave the rest of the human race credit for some intelligence with regards to the bears. I have a bear box and have had zero issues in years. But if I do have one…YOU PEOPLE better stay away from my land. I would sooner welcome the bears.
I have no bear in this fight, but I find it interesting that this article is about harassment, and from what I’ve read in the comments I’m only seeing those that take issue with the Bear League verbally belittling and harassing those that belong to the Bear League.
Tahoe real is right on it is about the tactics the bear league uses. Linda being a member seems to demonstrate the type of behavior that is used by the founder of that organization. Just attack and keep attacking. 40 years ago rarely were there any bears around here. The people that say they have always been here are just flat wrong. They are here because the food source such as with the trash all over town and the fools that feed them. I’m not against bears just the nasty bear league and the crazies that support them. Linda how long have you lived here?
Level, the real harassers are the trolls that like pointing fingers at everyone who is different than them (which is most everyone). Glad you pointed that out in case they missed it.
nature bat in bell: Puulleeeseee say something other than “pointing fingers”. My God, your words are so predictable and even more so boring.
Kitty, you think I care what you think? Ill stop commenting about the finger pointers when they(you)stop pointing fingers in every single story at people that think and do differently than the foxnoise flat earth trolls. :)
Its your limited commentary. That’s all. I don’t dislike you but please use some more language.
“when there is a bear we just get out of the car and chase the bear away back into the meadow ,or the forest, We have loud horns and other things to chase the bears out”
“We are always gentle with bears.”
How do you expect to be taken seriously? I find it funny that you have not addressed what this article is actually about. You must be blind and deaf if you think bears are not dangerous. Clearly you have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into thinking that Tahoe bears are a different species of bear than what lives everywhere else, and even though they are unpredictable, with two inch claws and razor sharp teeth, they are no more dangerous than squirrels, and they should be treated as one’s pet. You have backpedaled and changed your story so many times now, it’s a joke.
The Bear League is in the wrong and Ann Bryant is mentally unstable.
greengrass
green: She has ALWAYS been mentally unstable. Good call. Are you league sheep reading this?
Still so very hard for me to believe she turned her back on Karl Lacky. Disgusting!!!
Carl Lackey. Euthanizes 35%+ of the bears he traps. The other 65% he releases back into the wild……….smack dab in the middle of the Nevada Bear Hunt zone. Then just last week he arbitrarily stated the basin bear population was double what most experts estimate it to be. Most experts estimate the basin bear population at 200 to 300, yet Mr Lackey stated it was 500 to 600 in an RGJ article last week.
@ Biggerpicture. Double check your statistics. 100% of the released trap bears are not relocated to the middle of the hunt zone.
To All: Take note that none of the “self proclaimed” members from the Bear League commenting in this forum address the harassment tactics which is the subject of this article.
To All: The California hunt takes out over 1200 bears annually. Lots of depredation permits are issued to private citizens to kill a bear. You don’t hear a peep from Bear League about that even it happens in their back yard. El Dorado county has one of the highest kill rates. Placer too. Yet,all we hear about from BL is complaints about NDoW & Mr. Lackey. Why?
Last time I checked all states that have bears use hunting as a management tool it’s an accepted practice. Are all these states wrong? Is their science bad and only the Bear League correct? I doubt it. This is just another group that has made it fashonable to support their issue.
The bear league or some other group would help tons if they just created awareness on taking care of trash. You lose me and your relevance when you start getting political and harassing individuals. If the Bear League wants to succeed as a credible organization the director must resign and the organization start over, be transparent and create awareness and provide information to residents and visitors alike. These guys are hacks.
“Take note that none of the “self proclaimed” members from the Bear League commenting in this forum address the harassment tactics which is the subject of this article.”
Here ya go TahoeReal: As a Bear League member I have never been involved in ANY harassment in ANY form, I have never been asked to or told I should harass anyone by other members of the Bear League, and I have NEVER witnessed ANY member of the Bear League involved in ANY form of harassment. As a matter of fact at my training with the Bear League we were told specifically NOT to be involved of any form of harassment.
And has any one of those Bear League members named in the suit been convicted of any harassment to date?
@ Biggerpicture. Good to hear that you don’t harass people who rely on NDOW for help with a bear situation. Too bad oothers don’t behave more like you.
It must be frustrating to deal with “emotional & overzealous volunteers (as BL member Togee calls them) like those that harassed the Evans Family and called her sponsors & employer. Are you aware that the Carson police department became concerned for her safety due to the calls made to the school about Ms. Evans? I think you would agree, that’s harassment – not advocacy.
Has a BL member been convicted of harassment you ask? No yet but they are on that path. A BL member was sent ed to 30 days in jail for trap tampering…incited & ecourage by the BL & Wall of Shame page. BL deleted those threads sometime after.
Getting back to your question, this case is a civil suit, not a criminal suit, so there won’t be a “conviction” but rather Bear League will get hit in the pocketbook. My guess is the parties will settle on an amount and perhaps the judge will issue a civil stay away order from her house, family and employer as part of the settlement. (Speculation)
BL requested the court to dismiss the case and the court said no so the case goes on. Did you read the article? Here is one of the judges reasons for not dismissing the lawsuit :
“…The court finds that clear and convincing evidence exists to support the Evans’ claims that the Bear League conspired with its followers to accomplish the unlawful objective of cyber-stalking/cyber harassment, causing harm to the (Evanses),” Stiglich wrote.
Now we wait and see. If it settles we here won’t hear anything more about it. If it goes to trial, we will.
Your thoughts on what the judge had to say about the Bear League’s actions, quoted above?
Sounds darn compelling to me. Clearly those driving the bear train don’t heed the advice they preached to you.
Again, very unfortunate for your organization & the bear awareness cause. Just because people don’t care for BL tactics doesn’t mean they are anti bear. Does the BL understand that?
As Slaphhot says, the BL focus on trash and bear awareness, not harassment and online vitriol is the better route. A community can rally around that.
Finally, why is BL so cozy with CA even though they have a massive bear hunt and issue loads of depredation permits to individuals that reside in BL’s backyard. What is the deal? Why focus Carl Lackey? Something is amiss. Don’t you agree? Just think about it. Ask the BL leaders what their personal vendetta is against Lackey. I would all like to know and you probably should be made aware of it too.
Have you researched your relocation statistics yet?
50 year is right, and the same is true for coyotes. There werent that many back then, never snaching your little dog off it’s leash with the owner right there. The extreme advocates are the problem. Three bear cubs and bears not hybernating is a problem.