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S. Lake Tahoe not playing around with recreation


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By Susan Wood

Let’s be honest. You’d have to be living under a rock to not know what’s important to South Lake Tahoe residents and tourists.

Recreation. Recreation. Recreation.

So, the city – which is now all over recreation — is hoping you won’t be living under a rock as it launches a series of four input-gathering meetings to talk about what to do with the South Lake Tahoe Recreation Complex. The site features a main building that by most standards is as old as dirt at four decades.

In a town that worships ways to play and get the blood pumping, the state the structure is in is unacceptable. It’s cold, dingy and energy inefficient – costing the city more than $170,000 a year just to heat and light it. And it leaks. Lauren Thomaselli, who runs the site, had to place trash cans in the gym to catch water dripping from the roof.

The men's bathroom reflects the age of the facility. Photo/LTN file

The men’s bathroom reflects the age of the facility. Photo/LTN file

“This building has outlived its use,” city Parks and Recreation Commissioner Pete Fink told Lake Tahoe News after this week’s first meeting that brought out about 40 people to share their diverse ideas. The next gathering facilitated by planning consultant Greg Tonello is scheduled for February. Tonello plans to feature sketches of predominant themes.

Fink seemed as pleasantly surprised by the turnout as the prospect of wild-eyed ideas for the recreation-oriented site.

“We could have a SnowGlobe inside,” he said referencing the three-day outdoor music festival.

Earlier, Fink had mentioned to the group the idea of perhaps treating a new building on the site as a focal point in town for routine gathering places and for events.

“The one thing we’re lacking in our town is a hub,” he said Dec. 8. “We might want to take this opportunity and make it our town center.”

Fink admitted that now’s the time for those who are passionate about recreation to dream big with a “pie in the sky” attitude and through time what’s been deemed for years in government circles as “the scoping process” will weed out what’s secondary and elevate what’s primary.

Ideas abound in respect to what to build and what to consider when the infrastructure goes into place.

They include: a multi-sport complex, indoor soccer facility, bouldering wall, zero-energy pool, therapy tub, spa, arts gallery, kitchen, café, gymnastic center, racquetball and badminton courts as well as a place for the U.S. Ski Team and promising Olympians to train.

The mood of those who showed up resembled kids at Christmas.

Retaining a swimming pool is a priority with many people. Photo/LTN file

Retaining a swimming pool is a priority with many people. Photo/LTN file

City Assistant Public Works Director Jim Marino and councilmembers Wendy David and Austin Sass listened in as the attendees spanning three generations from a junior in high school to seniors seeking a hang out in their autumn years shared their goals.

Teenager Jordan Deas, who sat in the front row, urged the city to make a place for youth.

“Kids are looking for activities,” he said.

Local arts guru Robert Schimmel suggested the theme expand into the arts as a “connected component” and use display areas to promote local artists.

“I don’t know if we want a facility to be all things to all people, but the arts can be a real add-on as practically everything can be done with an eye to art,” he said.

“We need this facility so bad for so many reasons,” South Lake Tahoe Ice Arena operator Van Olson said.

Olson added he’s enjoyed success at the rink since he’s had “to run it as a business.” He advised the city to do all it can to woo the locals who volunteer and make up team sports.

Marino also reminded the group of locals to keep in mind what keeps the city’s facilities going.

“As much as we want a facility for us, we want to build a facility to drive tourism,” he said.

The thought shared by Fink: “If it’s a great place to live, it’s a great place to visit.”

Think sales tax and transient occupancy tax dollars.

A few ideas ranging from grants and taxes to a rich donor and a public-private partnership floated around informally about how to pay for such a venture, but nothing concrete. The council has had no formal discussions about the matter. The new South Tahoe Middle School track was built under a nonprofit financial structure.

Marino cautioned that while dreaming big is a noble goal, the reality is the group of ambitious endorphin seekers may have just spent $25 million with shared ideas in one meeting alone.

“If we make it so big, we’ll never build it. We might have to temper it,” he said.

The city staffer reiterated what he heard that a “pool component is huge” from many who came out to share their thoughts.

Marino was deadpan serious when he talked about how motivated he and his fellow public works staffers are to making things happen because the city’s recreation “train is rolling right now.” He explained that after years of working on storm drains they’re ready to dive into something above ground and prominent that the citizenry is likely to support.

“If we want to see a new recreation center on this site, we need to show up at meetings,” he said, as if speaking to those who weren’t there. “We’re tired of working long and hard on projects that get shelved.”

And don’t forget maintenance. For example, the city buys about 13,000 rolls of toilet paper just for Lakeview Commons.

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  1. Joe says - Posted: December 10, 2015

    Great more taxes. This type of spending, ultimately paid by tax revenue is why Tahoe rent prices are out of control. The home owners are forced to add the added tax increases from all the “measures” to the rent price. The city cut medical packages to our most loyal employees due to budget issues and now you want to use public funds for Snow Globe. I have dangerous pot holes in my neighborhood that the city doesn’t have the funds to fix but we have a new BMX course for all the Carson City folks that regularly come up to use the course for free. Reality check someone!

  2. Steve says - Posted: December 10, 2015

    Why doesn’t the City fix the crumbling streets and repair the roads before they supplant that basic obligation with fantasies like this?

  3. Blue Jeans says - Posted: December 10, 2015

    The complex will be nice for all the people who use vacation rentals. Use the complex during the day and ruin our neighborhoods by night.

    That said, I am in favor of updating the rec complex.

  4. SCTahoe says - Posted: December 10, 2015

    This project is greatly needed and long overdue. There are several examples across the nation of what a modern facility can look like and incorporate. The new one in Truckee has some pretty nice features. Let’s get it done!

  5. nature bats last says - Posted: December 10, 2015

    Pete Fink is a fine person to work with and as long as he is involved the outcome will not only be great but it will be built with innovation, environment and our youth as focal points. I trust him to make important decisions as well as be a great team member to work with others and be considerate of all ideas and input. Good luck with this project and lets make this work as a community. We will all benefit from this, locals and tourists.

  6. sunriser2 says - Posted: December 10, 2015

    What part of “FIX THE STREETS” don’t they understand??

  7. rock4tahoe says - Posted: December 10, 2015

    “A multi-sport complex… for U.S. Ski Team and promising Olympians to train.” I say, it’s about time. We have the most Medal Hardware but the athletes have to train in Colorado or New York; why not South Lake Tahoe?

  8. tony colombo says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    Sounds great! All we have to do is get corporate sponsors to kick in for construction and maintenance. i.e. “this restroom brought to you by Charmin.” Marmot, K2, GoPro, the list is endless for other applications.

  9. nature bats last says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    Tony, corporate sponsorship is a really good idea and can be a big financial help. This was maybe sarcasm you were posting but it would be a big help if there were appropriate corporate sponsors. If there is an olympic venue that would be easy to pursue.

  10. tahoegal says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    Please, please, please make the pool an important part of the improvements. As “we locals” age, it is a wonderful alternative way to stay in shape.

  11. tony colombo says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    This time I was serious Bats, Pavilions @ Worlds Faire, major events such as America’s cup, Disneyland too. South Lake Tahoe IS a world class destination. We can do this!

  12. Hmmm... says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    A restroom brought to you by ‘GoPro’…hilarious!

  13. Cranky Gerald says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    If any facility is built larger to also serve tourists, there should be a two tier fee structure, with the people whose taxes fund it getting a significant break. Tourists expect to spend money and will have no issue with paying more than residents.

    That being said…South Lake Tahoe remains a city of not quite 30,000 residents at best. Practically speaking, without significant annexation, there seems little chance to expand population in the foreseeable future.
    With the prevailing wages, there are upper limits to what the City can do and it is my belief that the City government remains unaware, or chooses to ignore this.

    Better to do less and do it very well than try to be all things to everyone and do it shabbily and second rate.

    Finally, regarding growth, the City has not proven its ability to effectively govern what it has. If I were a county resident, I would fight tooth and nail to avoid becoming a SLT resident.

  14. rock4tahoe says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    Cranky, I don’t know what City of South Lake Tahoe you are talking about. Have you seen California side of Stateline lately, Sidewalks, lights, El Dorado Beach, Yellow Sub area, Middle School, High School, Baseball Fields on Rufus Allen, Ice Skating Rink?

    In my 40+ years in SLT this is the best I have seen it look.

  15. Buck says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    Regan Beach, Sidewalks/Bike Paths, Rec Center, New Soccer Field (that snow globe destroyed) and Ball Fields. Streets? Loop Road? Water Shuttle? Show me the money!!! We can not maintain what we have.

  16. nature bats last says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    Hmmm, good one :) maybe there can be a city wide contest to come up with the best sponsorship for the parts that need replacing. That might be fun and noncontroversial since its just for laughs.

    CHEERS!

  17. Steven says - Posted: December 11, 2015

    Get the college to chip in, they have $55 Million !

    Build it for the locals, we have enough tourists and if they can’t find things to do in the natural beauty of Lake Tahoe, hiking, bike, swim, ski, breathing clean air, they can stay home. And get them out of our neighborhoods !

  18. nature bats last says - Posted: December 12, 2015

    Steven. Bah humbug

  19. rock4tahoe says - Posted: December 12, 2015

    Buck. Show you the money…Ok, the “airport” runs about $400,000 per year or $4 million every ten years.

    Not sure how much money the City loses each year from the “No” Sales tax on lift ticket deal with the city. They claim to be able to handle 52,000 skiers per hour, so the potential sales tax number is pretty good.

  20. Buck says - Posted: December 14, 2015

    rock I agree with you on ticket sales. I did forget to throw in the lawsuits and airport. Last estimate for loop road was 65 million not counting housing. Can we even afford it if it was free? We have to maintain it for life? City streets First Please! Also if the businesses down at stateline want the loop road they can set up a BID and pay for it.