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Lawsuits grounded commercial service in Tahoe for 20 years


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Publisher’s note: This is the first of three stories looking at the past, present and future of Lake Tahoe Airport.

By Joann Eisenbrandt

South Lake Tahoe wants commercial airline service to return to Lake Tahoe Airport. This isn’t news, but it’s moved to the forefront with the expiration this October of the 1992 Lake Tahoe Airport Master Plan Settlement Agreement ― a complex document that has formed the regulatory framework of commercial service at the airport for the last 20 years.

The answer to why this is significant today lies in the past.

The 1992 Lake Tahoe Airport Master Plan Settlement Agreement’s goal was to put to rest a swarm of counterpunching lawsuits and years of acrimonious fighting over the levels, value of and right to control commercial air service at the Lake Tahoe Airport during the mid-1980s and early-90s. At a settlement conference on Sept. 21, 1992, the warring stakeholders ― South Lake Tahoe, California Attorney General’s Office, Tahoe Regional Planning Agency, League to Save Lake Tahoe and Federal Aviation Administration ― symbolically buried the well-bloodied hatchet.

The lawsuits were dismissed and replaced with the minutely-detailed three-stage Settlement Agreement establishing tightly-controlled parameters for commercial service including: the allowed decibel levels of incoming and departing flights; enforcement of a list of presumptively-banned aircraft which could not meet those noise standards; annual noise level averages surrounding the airport; a tiered increase in the number of allowed yearly enplanements; environmentally-focused facility improvements; ongoing studies to determine traffic counts and vehicle miles traveled; a list of environmental mitigations and public education the city must perform; limits on and fees for rental cars; and an upgraded noise monitoring, reporting and complaint system, to name just a few.

On the surface, this was a fight over commercial airline service, but at its heart it was part of the larger struggle to answer the quintessential Tahoe question, “To whom does Tahoe belong?” and its corollary, “Who should be in charge of crafting the blueprint for its future?”

Scheduled jet service into the Lake Tahoe Airport ended in August 2000 when Allegiant Air, the last of a string of commercial and commuter airlines flying under the guidelines of the Settlement Agreement, ceased service. Then, as now, the city viewed the airport as an integral component of Tahoe’s economic survival. Mayor Pro Tem and Airport Commission Chairman Tom Davis, an active participant throughout the airport’s troubled history, realizes, “There’s valid skepticism in town about this airport, but we have a vision. I challenge the naysayers who don’t have a solution. There’s now a whole generation behind us that knows we need a balance…. We have the airport. We have the asset. We just need an airline.”

City Manager Nancy Kerry agrees, “We have this facility. What is its best and highest use? A general aviation airport is just a waste of space. We need to invest now so we’re ready when the economy recovers. It will have very minimal impact on the environment, but have a great impact on the economy.”

Not everyone has seen it quite that way. In a 2006 Lake Tahoe Airport Impacts Report, the League to Save Lake Tahoe asked, “Is the Lake Tahoe Airport, particularly commercial air service, part of the solution or part of the problem in terms of meeting the widely-supported goal of transporting people to and from the Lake Tahoe Basin in ways that have fewer environmental impacts? Do the economic and transportation benefits from the Lake Tahoe Airport outweigh the costs to the environment, such as air and water pollution, and community, such as noise and tax subsidies?”

AirCal was one of several commercial airlines that used to have regular flights into Lake Tahoe Airport. Photo/Provided

But who should speak for Tahoe? In 1989, Tom Martens, then executive director of the League to Save Lake Tahoe, told this reporter, “Tahoe belongs to the people of the United States and of the states of California and Nevada, more than to the local people unfortunately … because Congress and the states of California and Nevada declared it a national resource. They did that because of local mismanagement, so what may once have belonged to the local folks, doesn’t anymore, and probably never will. Without regulation from outside, Tahoe would have been gone.”

Taking a look back

In the 1940s, Lake Tahoe was a sparsely populated, quiet summer getaway. There was no city of South Lake Tahoe, no TRPA, no League to Save Lake Tahoe, few year-round residents, no visible conflict between economy and environment, and no commercial-service airport.

Following World War II, the lake’s population began to expand, and with the 1960 Squaw Valley Winter Olympics, everything changed. A building boom to accommodate the influx of visitors brought a spurt of residential and commercial development, especially on parcels fronting Highway 50. Motels and shopping centers began to dot the landscape. Highways 50 and 80 were built and improved. In late summer 1959, with funding assistance from the FAA, El Dorado County built and began operation of Lake Tahoe Airport.

In 1965, residents of the Al Tahoe, Bijou, Tahoe Valley and Stateline areas, concerned over excessive urbanization and the lack of land-use controls or a formal local government, voted to incorporate South Lake Tahoe. Other residents, worried that the new city was “owned” by developers, looked outside the basin for regional controls, beginning the path to today’s TRPA. In December 1965, the League to Save Lake Tahoe was formed.

The battle lines were drawn. The real fight for Tahoe began, and the fundamental question, “To whom does Tahoe belong?” took its place as the unseen but powerful “elephant in the room” in every subsequent discussion regarding Lake Tahoe’s future.

From its beginnings in 1959, the airport was served by myriad charter, commuter and commercial air service. The initial 5,900-foot runway was expanded to its current 8,541 feet in late 1962. The airport hit its peak service levels in the late 1970s, reaching close to 300,000 enplanements in 1978.

But the rumblings of trouble to come had begun. In 1977, AirCal (later American Airlines) first began scheduled commercial service to the then county-run airport. The California Attorney General’s Office, the chief law enforcement office of the state, sued AirCal, the Public Utilities Commission and the Civil Aeronautics Board on behalf of CTRPA (California Tahoe Regional Planning Agency – TRPA’s precursor) for their failure to comply with the requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act.

CEQA is the California statute, originally enacted in 1970 as a corollary to the federal NEPA (National Environmental Policy Act). Unlike the TRPA Regional Plan, CEQA does not set specific environmental thresholds to be met. Instead, it requires public decision-makers consider and define the environmental impacts before approving a “project,” such as commercial air service, and if significant, build in ways to mitigate them.

South Lake Tahoe took over operations of the airport from El Dorado County in 1983. Photo/LTN file

Further complicating things, in1978 the federal Airline Deregulation Act was passed, eliminating the control of the Civil Aeronautics Board over domestic air routes after Dec. 31, 1981, giving air carriers the right to provide, or stop providing, service on any routes they chose. In December 1980, a restructured bi-state TRPA enacted its Regional Plan.

City steps in

By then, feeling the effects of airline deregulation, yearly enplanements at the county-run airport had dropped to just more than 33,000, the physical plant was deteriorating and the airport was costing the county much more than it provided in revenue. Viewing the airport as a vital link to the outside world, and fearing that under the county it would not be maintained, the city began negotiations to take it over.

On Oct. 5, 1983, the city assumed operation of the airport from El Dorado County and with it the obligation to complete the county’s stalled master plan. The AG’s Office agreed to a 90-day exemption for the county’s completion of the CEQA-mandated documents, partly due to the earlier massive landslide on Highway 50.

On Oct. 11, the city approved a six-month lease with AirCal at their existing flight levels, telling the AG’s Office that within that timeframe they would have a completed Airport Master Plan. The CEQA process requires preparation of either a negative declaration or an environmental impact report, saying in the first case that the project creates no negative environmental consequences, or in the second, that if it does, sufficient mitigation measures will be in place to adequately offset them. The third option, a mitigated negative declaration, affirms that even though a project creates some impacts that cannot be fully mitigated, the project is so necessary for the larger public good that it still must go forward.

In March 1984, the city filed a negative declaration for the AirCal flights. TRPA noted concerns over noise, offsite parking impacts, traffic, and the danger of fuel spills in a stream environment zone, among others.

The lawsuits started whizzing. The AG’s Office sued the city over perceived inadequacies in the environmental document. The California AG’s Office had already sued TRPA stating that certain elements of its Regional Plan were inadequate. The city contended the Federal Airline Deregulation Act took away the power from any agency except the federal government, specifically the FAA, or the city to impose environmental thresholds, and sued TRPA saying it had no jurisdiction over the Lake Tahoe Airport, and even if it did, its standards, specifically those in relation to aircraft noise, were arbitrarily arrived at.

In May 1984, Judge Edward Garcia of the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of California filed a restraining order halting development in the basin in response to the AG’s lawsuit, preventing TRPA from approving “projects” such as AirCal’s flights. That December, the city prepared a draft EIR for an increase in weekly AirCal flights to 35, again finding the flights created no significant environmental impacts. The AG’s Office then sued the city stating this environmental document was also inadequate.

Progress stalls

Lake Tahoe Airport was now securely entangled in the “who speaks for Tahoe” debate. Attempts to settle the overlapping lawsuits individually were unsuccessful. Work on the Airport Master Plan ticked on, but slowly. Caught in the meat grinder of remarkably bad timing, a small Bay Area startup airline, Westates, began the complex and expensive environmental process to serve Lake Tahoe, but was blown out of the air by cost overruns and never began service.

In spring 1986, an Airport Consensus Group was formed in hopes of resolving the issues, and agreed to an Interim Service Agreement (ISA) for short periods during the summer and winter peak seasons of 1987, to monitor and evaluate the noise levels and other impacts of the expanded airline service. Pending litigation was put on hold. The suits over TRPA’s Regional Plan had been dropped, a revised Regional Plan approved and the building moratorium lifted.

Today it is mostly private jets that use Lake Tahoe Airport. Photo/LTN file

In July 1987, during the ISA’s summer segment, the FAA wrote a letter to the city expressing its concerns that in striving to “beat the box” … “Aircraft pilots attempting to reduce the noise levels of their aircraft as they fly over a monitoring station may engage in maneuvers which are not consistent with the highest order of safety.” The parties to the ISA, while denying any safety issues, became spooked by the prospect of liability. No winter ISA segment was held.

In 1987, AirCal became part of American Airlines. American terminated service to the Lake Tahoe Airport in 1991, with the smaller commuter American Eagle continuing. The Settlement Agreement was signed in September 1992 and American Eagle suspended service in November of that year. In the years that followed, a cavalcade of attempts at reinstituting commercial and commuter service had short-lived success: United Air and Alpha Air-Trans World Express in 1992, Reno Air from December 1994 to September 1995 under a $1 million privately-funded subsidy by the Tahoe Airline Guarantee Corporation; Sierra Expressway from 1995 to 1996; Allegiant Air from June-October 1999 and briefly in August 2000; and Tahoe Air from June-November 1999.

Soon after, questions arose over continued funding for air traffic control services at the airport tower. In 1997, the FAA had determined Lake Tahoe Airport had fallen below the critical 1 percent service level required for FAA funding. With a lack of commercial service, the airport had scored a 0.1. The city struggled to retain the tower and its air traffic control services through various combinations of FAA funding, state grants and city contributions, but in 2004 it closed.

Today there is no scheduled commercial service and the tower sits empty. General aviation services are provided by the fixed-base operator, Mountain West Aviation, helicopter flights by Reno Tahoe Helicopters, flight training by Lake Tahoe Flight School and food by the Flight Deck Restaurant. South Lake Tahoe administrative offices now quietly occupy much of the space previously overrun with the noisy jostling of arriving and departing passengers and the whining of a large, shiny metal baggage carousel.

The city has continued to contend during the 20-year term of the Settlement Agreement, that commercial service is a vital part of the airport’s reason for being. For 20 years, many have just as strongly disagreed. Now, as the expiration of the 1992 Settlement Agreement this fall comes clearly into focus, a blast of fresh air has reignited the long-smoldering debate over this polarizing issue and the questions that lie beneath it, “To whom does Tahoe belong?” and “Who should be in charge of crafting the blueprint for its future?”

Part two on July 6: The issues that have made reaching a consensus on commercial airline service so difficult.

 

 

 

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  1. Ej says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    Why is there no mention of PSA airlines in this article which I think was here before Air Cal and was here for a few years. I flew on it a couple of times

  2. earl zitts says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    At first read appears to be well written and comprehensive. Good show Joann.
    The League to Destroy Lake Tahoe and the Sierra Club (them to death) want humans out of here and will us the courts to accomplish their goals.
    Of course we need airline service with modern jets and propjets to prosper and survive and allow outsiders from the basin to enjoy this beautiful area.

  3. Jerome Evansj says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    A fine long and well researched piece that completely misses the point. Apparently the writer is unaware of the evolution of the airline industry since deregulation in 1978.Wake up folks.

    Jerome Evans

  4. Steve says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    PSA provided daily scheduled air service to TVL prior to Air Cal, and for awhile both served the airport simultaneously.

  5. Bob says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    Good article. Sorta goes beyond the airport and shows how all of these agencies have destroyed this area. This town unfortunately will never prosper with so many agencies, groups and what nots thinking, ‘To Whom Does Tahoe Belong?’.

  6. tahoedad says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    The Lake Tahoe Airport takes money from South Lake Tahoe taxpayers to subsidize private jet service for a few high rollers — taxes the 99% to cater to the 1%. There is nothing in the current settlement agreement, or in the stances of local agencies and groups, that precludes commercial service — it’s the market that does that. Southwest alone offers 17 daily flights from LA to the Reno-Tahoe Airport, serving well the regional market. The fact is that if airlines thought flying directly into Tahoe made economic sense they’d be doing it. In the meantime, the Lake Tahoe Airport is a black hole into which taxpayers pour money, and get lots of hot air and noise in return.

  7. Old Long Skiis says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    We need the airport! But what we really need is a commercial airline here that can stay in business. Many have tried but they always leave after finding it unprofitable to stay.
    I live in the Sierra Tract and am very close to the flight path. The noise from the private jets is a little annoying but very brief.
    I’m aware of the expense to keep it open but it really is a necessity for this town. The airport was a big help during our last two big fires and it brings in the occasionl group of visitors which helps our local economy. Now if only we could figure out a way to make it pay for itself….hhmmmm.
    Take care, Old Long Skiis, who once flew on a Paradice airlines plane out of the Tahoe airport that sometime later crashed into Jobs Peak killing all aboard.

  8. Rhinopoker says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    Something can be worked out to have seasonal service to the airport for people to come visit the Tahoe basin. If Mammoth can support airline service Tahoe certainly can. The article is well written and I have learned many things already I did not know about the troubles of the SLT airport. Again, too many agencies with too many adgendas will keep any progress from happening.

  9. Irish Wahini says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    …and the Air West, later Hughes AirWest flew to SLT before PSA or Air Cal. We used to have arrival parties at the airport! Fun. Regional carriers had to eliminate service to many small airports because Federal subsidy went away with deregulation in 1978. Too bad…
    Former AirWest & Hughes AirWest employee.

  10. 30 years in says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    To Old Long Skis: Did you know that the reason the FAA funded and built the control tower was due to that very crash you mentioned? Then the Council in 2004 decided it was an unnecessary expense to pay for the control service. Now any aircraft can fly in without benefit of using the radio. Ask how many close calls there have been because of that.

  11. cheepseats says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    I recall in the 70’s and 80’s many locals using the airport as well. While it is a smaller number and is certainly price-driven, it’s a segment of potential flyers that should be considered.

  12. Old Long Skiis says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    To 30 years in,
    Way back when my teacher, Mr.Muskovitz, took our class on a field trip to the airport, we even got to get a look see at the inside of the tower.I’m no aviation fanatic but for me as a kid it was way cool!
    I’m more than a little fearful of flying nowadays but at the same time I want to go up in a glider or maybe, if I could come up with the dough, I’d buy a seaplane. Contrary and conflicted? Yeah, you bet… but that’s the way I am on so many things.
    Take care, Old Long Skiis

  13. KnowBears says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    I only flew once out of the basin — back when I was a teen — in a turboprop that just about shook the teeth out of my head. The view of the basin I love so much was breath-taking. What amazed me the most was seeing all those tiny lakes that are nestled far up into the surrounding mountains.

    But was it worth it? I had a particular need to fly instead of travel by road on that occasion. But it cost my folks a lot of money, dumped a lot of crud into the air, and make a lot of noise on the ground, I presume, from take-off to landing.

    There’s no question in my mind that we need a place for emergency craft to take off and land at South Tahoe. But I do question the need for commercial service and the influx of people.

    I miss small, quiet, old South Tahoe. I come from a family of entrepreneurs who understood the value of making a buck, but not so much the value of leaving a place gently touched. I’ve come to see the value in moderation, in “less is more”, and in enough being enough.

    Success has not always been measured in growth. The parents and grandparents of my forebears who made big money off of exploiting the environment did not grasp for more. They sought (and found) the stability of good, honest work done in harmony with the environment. I don’t believe they were proud of the exploits of their championed offspring. I believe they saw the folly in it, and now we reap what the builders sewed.

    Yes, people should be here, but we should be here gently. We should be everywhere gently. Planners and builders and movers and shakers who fail to understand that are digging their grandchildren’s pits of debt and death.

    I loved my grandparents, and admire many things about their parents, but they were wrong. The earth is not here for us to exploit. It is here for us to cherish. Faith groups call it “stewardship” — a sense of responsibility to act wisely and prudently with a wide view of the present, an understanding of lessons of the past, and an eye toward the well-being of future generations.

    Grandpa actually said he didn’t care about the future; he only cared about making his money then and there. Well, he did that. He made his money. No doubt he’s getting a lot out of it 6 feet under while his grandchildren shake our heads and wonder.

    What’s YOUR bottom line?

    And as for the question, “To whom does Tahoe belong?”, my answer is “Everyone and no one.” As with every inch of this planet, Tahoe belongs to the future. Our job is to influence what that future looks like: Overbuilt and used up? Or gently enjoyed and verdant?

  14. Hang Ups From Way Back says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    All Airlines are surviving by charging you for a pillow, a beer, blanket,(toilets are coming soon wait see)….America Airlines ,one the largest, is in bankruptcy cause it’s too damn hard to give you a product even on European travel(use to be free wine all the way to Paris),fuel ,unions, large cities have their own problems keeping these Big Birds maintain, off the ground(one more airline attack set the industry back to square one with one plane and a nut case with device)…CRAMMING THE SEATS WITH OVER SIZED HOGS DON’T HELP THE PROFITS EITHER.
    There are more factors that work against this location and when it cost too much, no profits, Tahoe South the 8Th wonder of the world pretty hosed. It’s a waste of money, the city, county, feds know it, and so do the long time locals.
    Nothing happening here till we have a rail system to bring the people here in all weather condition on time, safely, and it comes with such a huge price tag it never happen
    So it really makes sense to make the finest highway in the Sierras to get the American car lover here.(everyone wants their own SPACE ANYWAY)!!
    THIS TOWN ALWAYS DREAMING THESE PIPES DREAMS, NO MONEY, NO GREAT LEADERS, no cooperation, CAN’T EVEN AFFORD GOOD STOP SIGNS ,CROSS WALKS,SIDEWALKS, YOU WANT A MAJOR CARRIER TO APPEAR TO LOSE THEIR BUTTS. Come on get back to some commons sense.
    Psa, Aircal ,Holiday ,Aspen, and the rest lost their rear ends ,This is a mountain town with great hopes but the OLD CITIES,SITES AROUND THE WORLD, still draw people from around the world cause they are special, we aren’t that special, just business people with greed in their eyes ,heart, no way to build a burnt bridge that once was great, time has a way changing the people.
    The boomers in their younger years were the drivers, they are old, they don’t waste cash like they use to and the younger people want more than what this town will allow.
    Here some food for thought, yesterday out on the lake there were couple real emergencies, from around 2 to 7 last night cells phone would not work, we need more those eye sores for safety .But hell you can’t even get the clans that live here to agree on the color or the name of a beach, everything here is ME, ME, ME.
    Good luck on anything here you try do. Most just look the other way because they already thought that, but I guess dreaming free, so keep dreaming.

  15. Old Long Skiis says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    Well said, KnowBears!
    Yeah, I miss old Tahoe too…ALOT! I figure since the airport is already here maybe just have a little “puddlle jumper” at the airstrip to get off the hill to see an aging parent or other relative, would be great.Sonoma county, Sacramento, San Jose, or wherever. I really hate that 4 hour drive.
    Seeing Tahoe and all the other surrounding lakes from the air is really something you’ll never forget. We are very fortunate to live in such a beautiful place.
    I agree, treat this place gently and I would add lets treat our guests with open arms and a smile. My family was involved in the tourist industry here for a long time as was I. At our motel we always called the folks that stayed with us “Guests”, never customers, visitors or the dreaded term from the 70’s,”turkeys”.Keeping the airport open not only brings in sorely needed dollars it also helps Tahoe as a community. A little noisy? Sure. I can attest to that but I think it’s vital that we keep it open and get some people back up in that tower.
    Take care, Old Long Skiis

  16. Hang Ups From Way Back says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    NO ONE WILL EVER FORGET MR.JENKINS VACATION OUT TOWN WHILE THE INGORANT WOOD CUTTERS COST THE CITY PLENTY CASH FOR NOT BEING SMART ENOUGH TO TELL THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A MARK TREE TO FALL, SO HELL, LETS CUT THE ENTIRE FOREST DOWN AT THE AIRPORT FOR SAFETY.

    These are kind things that make us a laughing joke to big Banks for a loan.

    I DO REMEMBER HERTZ RENT A CAR OUT THERE HAD THESE DUMB JOKERS THAT WASHED ,CLEANED THE RENTAL CARS, THEY WALK OFF LEAVE THE GAS HOSE RUNNING filling up the cars ,IT overflow be RUNNING DOWN INTO THE STORM DRAINS,WHILE THEY WENT TO THE COUNTER TO LOOK LIKE THEY HAD A JOB.This is a fact!

  17. Michael Clark says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    Very balanced article, thanks. I have flown in and out of this airport for almost 40 years in both personal aircraft and the airlines. The airport is a wonderful asset that has already brought millions of dollars into our economy. It can continue to bring millions of dollars into our economy or it can rot. The vicious attacks and nonsense stories will not change the fact that the airport cannot simply be “closed”. The city would have to repay the FAA millions of dollars just to start the closure process. Of course, that would be suicidal in light of how incredibly the airport was during the Angora Fire ALONE.

    There should be universal support for this asset as it is the best thing that could happen to the city. The grouchy, ME, ME, ME comments that agree with the various agencies that would love nothing better than to see Lake Tahoe become a private nature preserve (with an ecological study center) can go jump in the Lake, IMHO.

    I heartily agree with Bears, there is no better way to appreciate our basin than seeing it from the air. I highly suggest that you take a helicopter tour if there is any way you can swing it.

    Happy 4th of July to all my fellow Americans and God Bless the United States of America.

  18. John says - Posted: July 5, 2012

    Michael, if there was a market for the airport then good, bring it on. But what airline is going to come here? I have to agree with Jerome Evans. There is an entirely new airline industry out there and profitability is dependent on moving aircraft predictably. Towns across America are having a hard time attracting airlines. Heck Reno is only an hour away, Reno / Tahoe is a closer airport than Denver or Salt Lake. If I was a shareholder of an airline that came here I would be mad. Too many hastles with weather and seasonal demand. No thanks.

  19. Hang Ups From Way Back says - Posted: July 6, 2012

    Hey Mike, are you body snatcher from the springs turned real estates agent with no cause the from high school?

    We called you BEEK?
    IF SO WHATS BYRD,SWEATLICK DOING.

    PEACE, YOU EARLY GANG BANGER FROM THE SPRINGS TURNED ROBBER HOUSE BANGER FORECLOSER AGENT!
    FUNNY THING ABOUT MONEY,NO ASKS WHERE YOU GOT IT!
    ROVER

  20. Hang Ups From Way Back says - Posted: July 6, 2012

    my fellow Americans and God Bless the United States of America.

    WHAT A CROCK!

    GET A OIL WELL WILL YOU!

    EASY MONEY$$

    ALL TIPS ACCEPTED!

  21. TheTruth says - Posted: July 6, 2012

    Mr. Clark noted the value of the airport during the Angora fire. Agreed. Perhaps residents of the county who relied upon it during that emergency would be willing to contribute to it. Perhaps the casinos who use it to fly high-rollers to their gambling tables would be willing to contribute to it.

    Most of the people who laud the value of the airport live either on the Nevada side or in the county and pay nothing to support it. A free lunch! The city should close the airport. Let those who find it valuable, from El Dorado, Placer, Douglas or Washoe counties, band together and pay for it. It’s time to let the poor suckers of South Lake Tahoe off the hook and use that money to fix our roads.

  22. Frank says - Posted: July 7, 2012

    Is everyone insane.. We have been through this many times before. The negative affects to the ecosystem, natural environment and public cannot be effectively mitigated. This basin has been through this more than a few times and the city needs to figure that out. They inherited that lousy investment for next to nothing and are scrambling to try and make a buck off it. If a commercial airliner is brought in it is sure to be a nuisance and problem and guaranteed to bring about a community uprising. This is sure to fail and once again divide the community. If you remember the noise in the past it was herendous! If the TRPA allows this it will be a crime and go against everything they are striving to protect. It will be horrible for the environment… If wasting efforts in failure is your goal then you are sure to succeed… Commercial airliners are a horrible idea!

  23. Biggerpicture says - Posted: July 7, 2012

    “If you remember the noise in the past it was horrendous!”

    Oh, come on! Are you actually saying that 2-3 commercial flights a day will destroy the environment? We have C-130’s, Navy fighter jets, various private jets, etc landing at the airport on a regular basis, and yet the forest is still standing, the lake is still blue, and I’m still breathing clear mountain air!

    The only drawback to a commercial airliner making this a regular destination is the economic feasibility to that airline.

  24. Frank says - Posted: July 7, 2012

    I disagree with commercial Air…. The existing use as you pointed out is a nuisance all its own.. Adding more stress to the current use will be horrible for the environment and all it’s inhabitants. And sorry, the lake is turning green… Evident from the deep lake getting worse and the algae on nearshore rocks.. Still clearer than most though, but does that give us the right to abuse it more.

  25. Biggerpicture says - Posted: July 7, 2012

    Frank,are you arguing that commercial air service would be the tipping point of damage that the Tahoe Keys (by virtue of the largest wetland in the basin plowed over for development) and one golf course on the lake and 4 others whose runoff filled with fertilizers flow directly to the lake? Don’t forget that the lake at the turn of the century (1800’s to 1900’s) was a muddy mess that seemed to rehabilitate itself over the following 60 years.

    That is a bit of a stretch.

  26. Frank says - Posted: July 7, 2012

    Bigger picture.. I don’t completely disagree and i do see your point. No I don’t think that the commercial air will offset all other disturbance that is here and I think u nailed it that all these impacts are the main clarity degraders. The commercial air disrupts the ecosystem and shocks wildlife an disrupts wildlife and inhabitants in the area. PI don’t believe it to be worse than boats, marinas, golf courses and roads. The difference as you point out is that there were no urban impacts in the 1800’s and early 1900’s. Impacts were created in the basin and not influenced by today’s anthropogenic impacts. The lake can’t heal itself from all this as we increase the use on and in it and don’t stop anything we are doing. Water stays in the lake an incredibly long time. Guess the proof will be in the results and long term record of our actions and hopeful improvements.. We can’t have it all and hope the lake improves.

  27. burt says - Posted: July 8, 2012

    Jet noise is very significant. You cannot talk or hear over it in the Truckee River Marsh during take offs and landings. We have an international airport in Reno that serves this area well. Most mountain resort towns with their own airport are much further from a major airport. Imagine the view from Echo Summit with a beautiful wetland as the foreground to Lake Tahoe instead of the largest patch of concrete in Tahoe.

  28. Murak says - Posted: July 11, 2012

    Is there a way to complain on increasing level of noise coming from the airport? I tried to call the airport several times and I was made to believe that I am the only person disturbed by the noise.
    It doesn’t matter if I hike, ski or take a walk by Truckee river, the noise is still there. I am looking for an official an recorded way to file a complain, not just a phone call to airport officials who are interested in keeping the airport alive and their salaries increasing together with the noise level.
    Thanks