Greenpeace co-founder sounds off on climate change
By Philip Ross, International Business Times
Canadian ecologist Patrick Moore, known as one of the co-founders of the activist group Greenpeace, has a history of sharply dissenting from policies supported by major environmental groups, including the one he helped create. Moore’s latest departure is to assert that climate change, particularly the gradual warming of Earth’s surface temperature over the last century, is not caused by humans.
“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” Moore said during an appearance before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee on Tuesday. “If there were such a proof it would be written down for all to see. No actual proof, as it is understood in science, exists.”
The ecologist, who worked with Greenpeace from 1971 to 1986 and left “not necessarily by his own choice,” went on to found Greenspirit Strategies, an environmental and sustainability consulting firm in Vancouver.
Patrick Moore is your typical lobby-whore who is willing to say anything for a buck. He was thrown out of Greenpeace decades ago but still uses his limited accomplishments with them 25+ yrs. ago to sell the corpo lies of the GMOs, Nuke plants, timber industry clearcutters and now the fossil fuel industry. The low-info and willfully ignorant deniers lap this stuff up from the usual suspects on hate radio and foxnoos, they don’t really care that the guy is a fact-free lobbyist because it fits their fact-free narrative.
I will give this article credit for linking to this loser’s expose as a liar and fraud here:
http://www.lobbywatch.org/profile1.asp?PrId=89&page=M
more debunking and real science can be found here:
http://www.mediamatters.org/research/2014/02/27/who-is-patrick-moore-a-look-at-the-former-green/198266
Easy, Bijoubill
Such vitriol does not support your stance.
My first year of college in 1960 our greatest concern was global cooling. The Earth is billions of years old. There are so many forces in nature that can devastate us as an asteroid put an end to the dinosaurs.
There is a lot to say for the environmental movement. We need to distinguish between science and belief systems. A Scientist is happy when his theory is disproved because he’s after facts and knowledge.
The believer has no use for new information. So much so that when you go through the coldest season, it only proves global warming.
I’m always pleased to see us putting into laws what we know science to be.
BB, so much hate and anger.
Typical liberal response to people that don’t think like YOU THINK THEY SHOULD.
The hate just flows.
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I am candidly surprised that LTN even posted this excerpt. You ought to read the entire article.
This guy cut Al Goreleone down at the knees. Moore took the wind out of the Warmista’s sails. His comments were earth shattering, actually, considering he’s from Greenpeace.
All of those people railing for a “cooler” planet best remember that human beings are of sub-tropical descent.
You do NOT want another ice age, as it will practically wipe out the human race. If the planet warms, what exactly is wrong with that?
Out time on earth is the equivalent of a grain of sand on the Florida coastline. You do not know what the climate was, nor will be in the future, nor do you have any control over it.
And until the Warmistas start living by example, which means ceasing all travel, living off the grid, growing their own produce, and ditching their electronic devices, I don’t want to hear another peep out of those loudmouths about Global Warming, which is nothing short of a farce.
…sigh…
The global cooling concern was blown out of proportion by the media at the time, and by the ‘skeptics’ today.
AB your opinions on matters of reason should not be taken seriously. You plagiarize and use false dichotomy in your arguments.
“You do not know what the climate was”
False.
” If the planet warms, what exactly is wrong with that?”
…. sigh….
” Global Warming, which is nothing short of a farce.”
You can’t back up that statement. Last time you did you plagiarized a pseudoscience blog.
Nor can you define climate (its not the hard buddy).
“BB, so much hate and anger.”
OK CJ, then why do your comments get deleted? What was the content of that one that you yourself deleted? A few people saw it, and were disgusted by it.
Define climate you goon.
judging by the quality of many comments that always follow any news items concerning climate and humans, maybe climate changes, no matter how caused, that make the earth uninhabitable for humans, wouldn’t be such a bad thing? Yeah I am being sarcastic, but then again?….
It’s amazing how defensive some people get when Human Caused Climate Change is questioned. Anytime someone gets defensive doesn’t that give you pause?
Even if this guy is getting $ in some form from the oil industry, then we do disqualify all the Pro Human Caused Climate Change individuals who are getting govt. grants to engage in never ending ‘research’? Research that has yet to produce a ‘specific and enforceable’ solution!
A tip. If you want skeptics to go along with the Climate Change belief, come up with a specific solution, that’s enforceable, that includes all countries such as India & China, and don’t try to in essence ‘shout down’ those who question it!
Parker, I share your position on this matter.
If the Greens & Warmistas would make the sacrifice and lead by example, I would pay attention to them.
But all they want is more government control. This is a ploy, orchestrated by governments around the world in an attempt to create more bureaucracy and control over the people.
All you need to do is look at who is behind it to see what they’re objective is.
As I have always said, inside every liberal is a statist just screaming to get out.
Time to watch “An Inconvenient Truth” again. Ignore the political stuff and focus on facts. There is ample peer-reviewed scientific evidence to show that we are killing ourselves with the overuse of fossil fuels.
The planet will take care of itself. It’s not the planet that’s in danger. We are.
BLA BLA BLA NONE OF WILL BE HERE WHENEVER WHAT HAPPENS HAPPENS THIS DOES NOT EVEN MAKE A GOOD ARGUMENT ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS AND STOP ALL THE BULL.
I would challenge Mr. Moore on a few points.
First, he is an Ecologist, not a Climatologists. His claim from the article, is that CO2 rose during the Ordovician-Silurian period, around 440 Million Years ago, during a time when Sea Levels dropped and multiple Ice Ages appeared. So, according to Patrick, you can have CO2 rise and temperature drops. But, the facts do not go along with his hypothesis. CO2 levels dropped substantial during the O-S period.
Geologists, Physicists, Astronomers and Climatologists have three major theories. a. Plate tectonic subduction that stored large amounts or CO2 under the earths crust associated with large amounts of Volcanic activity that brought on cooler temperatures brought on a rise in ice creation with a drop in sea levels. b. The Gondwana land mass drifted near or over the southern pole causing a cooling period. c. Possibly a gamma radiation burst from a supernova produced a cooling period. Perhaps all three. This same period saw one of the 5 major mass extinctions on Earth.
Here is a link to Geologic work done on this topic. Notice the drop in pCO2 during the period in question…
http://www.geology.ohio-state.edu/~saltzman/young_et_al_2009.pdf
So, Patrick may be a good Ecologist, but I would question his knowledge of Geology and Climatology for this time period, along with his conclusions.
Just curious, R4T, what kind of scientist are you?
How old is the earth?
Dog. I have a couple of Degrees and a number of specialty certifications. But, I have a feeling you don’t really care about that.
I asked an honest question. You did not answer it. Why is EVERYTHING confrontational with you?
r4t,
You said “Geologists, Physicists, Astronomers and Climatologists have three major theories”.
The operative word is ‘theories’.
It applies to all components of the discussion.
Done, settled. Thank you.
No more “climate change” zealotry.
So now we know even more about your scientific illiteracy.
That ‘its a theory’ argument is so small minded. You typed that message using countless ‘theories’. I don’t even know where we need to start to explain why that is invalid. Philosophy of Science, it might take awhile. Find a book and read it.
Done, settled. Thank you.
No more ignorance.
Dog. No, we are not going to pick out drapes or linen any time soon.
Um CJ. You do realize that Gravity, Dark Matter, Nuclear Fusion, Wormholes, Black Holes, Neutron Stars are theories too. Yet, “Scientist” seem to agree they exist. I say thank goodness we have had visionaries like Archimedes, Pythagoras, Newton, Einstein and Hawking to lead the way to new understandings of the Universe; oh, yet another theory.
No more Fossil Fuel or cigarette sales pitches either!